2.4 JTD Swap in older Alfa?

[RapidRonnie]

I'm in the US and I'd like to have the 2.4 JTD engine, but getting a
car in here is quite out of the question. I'm thinking it would be fun
to get an engine and swap it into a Spider, as getting engines in
isn't too hard. has anyone done a swap, and are there any guides to
the electronics, wiring etc as well as bellhousing and trans mods that
would be needed?

[SteveH]

Post by RapidRonnie
I'm in the US and I'd like to have the 2.4 JTD engine, but getting a
car in here is quite out of the question. I'm thinking it would be fun
to get an engine and swap it into a Spider, as getting engines in
isn't too hard. has anyone done a swap, and are there any guides to
the electronics, wiring etc as well as bellhousing and trans mods that
would be needed?

Far, far too much trouble.

You'd have to fabricate your own engine and gearbox mounts for a start.
Then there's the ECU which is tied into the door locks and ignition
lock, meaning you'd have to swap everything over.

Also the small matter of the 2.4JTD being a 5 cylinder engine and rather
longer than the twincam engine.

Not to mention the extra weight of the JTD and the fact that it has
never been used in a RWD car - meaning you'd have to have a custom
propshaft made.

All things considered, it's a non-starter unless you're competent to
basically rebuild the metalwork at the front of the car.

Anyone who posts the kind of question you've posted usually isn't
skilled enough to do the job.

[alfistagj]

That would be transforming a rear wheel drive to front wheel drive, or
adapting the engine (gearbox) from a 90dgr to a 180dgr.
WOW !!!
I would go for importing the complete car.
Should be possible, maybe a lot of paperwork.
--
Ciao from The Netherlands
alfistagj (aka Gert-Jan)
GT 2.0 JTS (2005)
Montreal 2.6V8 (1428700 - 1973/4)

Post by RapidRonnie
I'm in the US and I'd like to have the 2.4 JTD engine, but getting a
car in here is quite out of the question. I'm thinking it would be fun
to get an engine and swap it into a Spider, as getting engines in
isn't too hard. has anyone done a swap, and are there any guides to
the electronics, wiring etc as well as bellhousing and trans mods that
would be needed?

[RapidRonnie]

Post by alfistagj
That would be transforming a rear wheel drive to front wheel drive, or
adapting the engine (gearbox) from a 90dgr to a 180dgr.
WOW !!!
I would go for importing the complete car.
Should be possible, maybe a lot of paperwork.

Not realistically, no. Not for one car. If there were a fair market
for them willing to pay a $15K charge for federalization, maybe.

I know the issues. You have to adapt the engine to some sort of RWD
gearbox, Alfa or otherwise. You have to fab the engine mounts,
assuming the space is long enough for the greater length. (Usually no
big deal.) You have to have a driveshaft made (no big deal), and
then do the coolant and fuel plumbing (again no big deal.) The tough
part is the electronics, but usually with a little trickery and some
wire loom fabrication (which I can do) it is doable.

What I don't know is the length, width or height of the JTD engine,
its weight, and whether it has any commonality with other Alfa or Fiat
engines in terms of bolt patterns, flywheel dims, etc.

In short, I was hoping someone over there other than a smartass would
have some knowledge of this. For "real petrolhead"'s information I
have done two swaps before- a 318 Mopar and Torqueflite into a XJ-6
Jaguar and a Mazda rotary in an MGB. Alfas are simply not in
existence in the US, at least the modern ones, so before getting on
the redeye to Milan in search of a used engine I thought I'd ask. Is
Italy even the best place for a non-Italian speaker to try to buy a
used engine?

[Andy Wilson]

SNIP

Is

Post by RapidRonnie
Italy even the best place for a non-Italian speaker to try to buy a
used engine?

You could try the UK, it may not be the best prices but at least we speak
English so you could save yourself some disappointment through not
understanding.

Andy